Illinois Gambling Self-exclusion List

Fleaswatter

Can I place a family member, friend or spouse with a gambling problem on the list? A person cannot place another person on the self-exclusion list. Placement on the list is entirely voluntary and must be done by the individual seeking voluntary self-exclusion. 7.w long will I be on the self-exclusion list? As Illinois has expanded its gambling options in recent years, it has also taken steps to combat problem gambling. One of the most important tools available to players is a self-exclusion list.

Here is the scenario:
-a person self excluded themselves from a casino
-the person goes and gambles at the casino he/she self-excluded themself from
-after gambling for a while, the person is identifed by casino personnel
-at the time the peson is identified, the person up $1500
What are the consequences for the self-excluded player? Can the person be arrested? Does the person have to give back their winnings? etc etc
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EvenBob
Self excluding yourself is not a joke andIllinois gambling self-exclusion list crawler
is taken seriously by the casino. They want
to avoid a lawsuit and you will escorted off
the property, or in some cases the police
are called. As far as the money goes, should
the casino pay it back if the guy lost $1500?
'It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail.' Gore Vidal
Garnabby
Hi Fleas, i read a story about this a few days ago, similar to the one at http://calvinayre.com/2011/11/28/casino/self-excluded-winnings-seized/ . (Couldn't find the original source.)
It's not often clear when dealing with casinos, of which is the case. More or less, one has to be first-hand involved in some way to know for sure of any of the settlement(s). I could only speculate on this one; and the reason i didn't completely read the longer version which i can't find now. In general, casinos do often 'shell out' tens of thousands of dollars in such civil suits. Eg, i personally know of a waitress being improperly fired for complaining of minor back-problems who won a couple of hundred thousands after her union became involved.
In my opinion, such confusion stems from the casino-industry's 'argument' that no one has to gamble. And their ignorance of the fact that then no one has to really provide either for such occasion to gamble. Hence, the 'strange hoops' every one involved ends up 'jumping through' at some time, or another.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a 'good bet'? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
Ibeatyouraces
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konceptum
I think the linked article answers the question.

Individuals who have placed themselves on the list have signed an agreement that all winnings are subject to forfeiture.


Illinois Gambling Self-exclusion Listing

They also state that this is necessary to take away the incentive to want to keep gambling. Makes sense to me. We'll do our best to keep you out of our casino, but if you still make it in, and win anything, we're not going to let you keep it.
Face
Administrator

Here is the scenario:
-a person self excluded themselves from a casino
-the person goes and gambles at the casino he/she self-excluded themself from
-after gambling for a while, the person is identifed by casino personnel
-at the time the peson is identified, the person up $1500
What are the consequences for the self-excluded player? Can the person be arrested? Does the person have to give back their winnings? etc etc


They're screwed. Whether they're 86'd as a result of a bar fight or voluntarily exclude themselves, it amounts to the same. Only difference is the voluntary has an easier time rescinding the exclusion.
I've seen several cases of this, and every time it's the same thing. They exclude themselves, then show up some time later and make it onto the floor (not incredibly difficult as security can't remember every face). But we flag their players card, so as soon as it goes it, we get a notification. Just a few months back we had a guy make it in but wasn't using his card. He was getting away with it, until he hit a $8,000 j/p. Once his ID was obtained, he was reminded of his exclusion, his j/p was voided, and he was issued an appearance ticket for trespass.
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ncfatcat
If he was up they should have just waited a while to walk him out of the casino!
Gambling is a metaphor for life. Hang around long enough and it's all gone.
Ibeatyouraces
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Face
Administrator
Really? Wow, seems like that isn't the right thing to do, might scare off people thinking of taking a break.
I guess now would be a good time to remind that I'm tribal, and don't necessarily speak for the entire industry.
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whatme
NJ
has time frames so you can be on the list for 1yr up to life and can take yourself of the list.
If the casino wins the money is forfeited below is from NJ DGE site under fin & stat info.
'under $100,000 are split equally between Casino Revenue Fund and Compulsive Gambling Programs.
For forfeitures over $100,000, Compulsive Gambling Programs get $50,000 and the balance goes to the
Casino Revenue Fund.'
Video gambling in non-casino locations came to Illinois in September, 2012. Eligible bars, truck stops, and other locales can host up to five video gambling terminals in an adults-only portion of their establishments. There are now more than 16,000 video gambling terminals operating in Illinois at a total of more than 4,000 establishments. There is no self-exclusion system in place for gamblers on these machines. These thousands of locations and small-scale operations are cited as reasons that a self-exclusion program would not be implementable, but the fact that the locations are adult-only means that there must already be in place a system capable of checking IDs.

Illinois Gambling Self-exclusion List Crawler

The article linked above (and here) offers a few statistics on Illinois's statewide casino self-exclusion plan. In mid-April, 2014, there were more than 10,600 people on the self-exclusion list. Since the initiation of the program in 2002, 'there have been 3,477 instances where self-excluded gamblers had been caught [in violation of their exclusion orders], with 3,399 of the incidents resulting in arrests.' Many of these violators are caught when they win a jackpot exceeding $1,200, as the collection of such winnings requires identification. When a 'winner' is found to be on the self-excluded list, he or she is not allowed to keep the jackpot. So far, casinos have 'confiscated $1.5 million of winnings from self-excluded gamblers, who then get to decide which of three addiction centers their money goes to.'
[The headline and the early part of the linked article might be confusing to the Self-Exclusion reader, as these refer to excluding some undesirable people from operating on the supply side of video gambling. The material on voluntary exclusions for gamblers comes later in the article.]

Illinois Gambling Self-exclusion List By Name